REF:NDGBGOA / CE /MINUTES/CIR / 2017-01 Dated: 23.01.2017
To,
All Members,
Sub: Brief of the Meeting held with MoD / OFB officials and
NDGBGOA Association chaired by the Joint Secretary / LS(DDP-MOD) on 20/01/2017
at 15.00 to 1700 Hrs. in South Block New Delhi on Cadre related
grievances” of Group-B Gazetted Officers.
Dear Brothers,
The meeting was chaired by
JS/LS(MOD-DDP).
The following were present in the meeting.
Shri Sharada Prasad /Dy. Secretary-P (MOD-DDP), Shri
Biswajit Sarkar / Under Secretary-G (MOD-DDP), Shri S. K. Sinha / DDG IR -OFB, Smt. Sujata Ray /DDG-NG-OFB & Dr. S. R. K. Vidyarthi / Dir-NG-OFB were present from official side.
Shri Jaigopal Singh, General Secretary/NDGBGOA, Shri S. Chandrakant
Rao, Chairman/ NDGBGOA, Shri Pradeep
Kenjale Jt. Secretary/NDGBGOA , Shri
P. Thangapandiyan, Office Secretary/NDGBGOA, Shri. Ghanshyam Singh, Jt. Secretary/NDGBGOA and 05 representatives of 2nd Association were present
in the meeting from Staff Side.
Brief of discussion held
& decision taken in the Meeting with JS/LS held on 20.01.2017 as per
MoD ID No. 19(8)/2015-US(G) dated 03.01.2017 to discuss various issues raised
by NDGBGO association in the letter dated 19.12.2016 & 20.12.2016 addressed
to secretary (DP):
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Subject
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Comments
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Decision
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7 th CPC related matter:
Need to pursue with MoF for implementation of 7th CPC recommendation in
respect of JWMs.
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OFB/MOD: A proposal relating to formation of hierarchy post of
Gr.’B’ Gazetted from & Gr.’B’ Gazetted, Non- Gazetted gradated popsts in
OFB Organisation as per 7TH CPC recommendation the proposal
reffered to Dept. of Exp., MoF for their Concurred on 12.01.2017. After
approval from MoF the Necessary orders will be issued.
NDGBGOA: i)We proposed that the sanctioned strength of MCM should be
counted for calculation of 10% of the cadre in pre-revised 4200 GP & 4600
GP for placement in 4800 GP. As the MCM is having status of Gr. ‘B’ and
availing similar privileges.
ii)The implementation of 7th CPC recommendation for JWMs must be done
after approval in the similar manner as done at the time of Artisan cadre
Cadre-review by 6th CPC in 2010. Prior
to amendment in SRO/RR by Govt. as parallel action.
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Submitted for
approval at MoF on 17.01.2017
After approval necessary
orders will be issued for implementation immediately.
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2.
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CADRE REVIEW of
Group-‘B’ Gazetted Officers.
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OFB/MoD: Views of the outcome of the proposal for revision of
Hierarchy of the JWM cadre as recommended by 7th CPC, separate proposal of
cadre restructuring may be proposed framed accordingly.
NDGBGOA: Agreed with OFB/MoD.
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As the proposal of 7th
CPC is under approval from Govt. the
OFB may take up the matter after implementation of the 7th CPC
recommendations
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3.
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Need for Increase in
sanctioned strength of AWM in proportion of sanctioned strength of JWM
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OFB/MoD: DDG IR
stated that 4th Cadre Review Proposal for Group-A cadre has been
initiated and it is at present submitted to Finance Division of OFB for
concurrence after which it will be submitted to DDP. In this proposal it is
proposed to increase the sanctioned strength of AWM considerably up to 663
with respect to the present sanctioned strength of 375.
NDGBGOA: From our unofficial sources in MoF it is understood that the
cadre review of IOFS is already completed before two years and it will not be
possible to consider fresh cadre review before 5 years from the date of
earlier cadre review as per DOPT guidelines. Also Jt. Secretary/LS stated the
facts that it would not be possible to increase very large numbers of post in
AWM’s and if increased it will be not possible to give all for promotion.
After forecasting our association come to conclusion that we have to
review in this matter considering past experience and go for parallel posts
by promotion in the interest of future generation promotional aspects instead
of increasing the AWM posts. We will discuss it in our association forum
considering effect on our proposed cadre review proposal.
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OFB will forward the
cadre review of IOFS proposal with increased AWM posts of 663 within two
months.
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4.
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Career progression
to PS/Sr.PS Cadre. Steno, PA, PS &Sr. PS cadre of headquarters &
factories should be integrated and same cadre structure, motivation and
career progression opportunity should be given to all those who are carrying
similar work whether in Hq.Qtrs. or in Factories.
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OFB/MoD: No proposal since be received from OFB for formation of
single Steno grade Cadre in OFB. However a proposal has been received on
18.01.2017 from OFB relating to cadre structuring of Sr.PS in ordnance
factories wherein 9 posts of Sr. PS has been proposed to be created.
NDGBGOA: Despite of similar work and same SRO the Steno & PA
cadre of HQs are having better career progression than those who are having
in Factories.
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Filling of more 9
posts of Sr. PS proposal is under examination in the MoD and agreed to create
9 posts of Sr.PS.
OFB will examine the
similar cadre structuring for Hq. Qtrs. and Factories after taking views of
STENO cadre association in OFB Hq. Qtrs. within one month.
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5.
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Revision of
SRO-JWM-T & NT: OFB may please expedite the issue to DOP&T through
MoD for on-line approval of SRO of JWM-NT.
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MOD/OFB: The SRO of JWM(T) forwarded to DOP&T after taking
all necessary action 11.07.2016. However DOP&T reffered back the SRO with
same observation on 13.10.2016. The observation of DOP&T communication to
OFB on 24.10.2016. Replay of OFB received on 11.01.2017 which is under
examination at DDP.
Proposal of framing
SRO of JWM-NT /S has been framed based on existing strength. However if at a
subsequent stage the same gets changed due to approval of competent
authority, the same may be further incorporated in the SRO.
NDGBGOA: The proposed SROs
must be submitted considering expected cadre restructuring as per 7th
CPC to avoid repeating of work. Consideration of both stake holders’
associations’ must be taken before finalisation.
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Two proposals for amendment
of SRO of JWM (tech) & Framing up of new SRO for JWM (NT) is being
submitted to DOP&T through single window system within one month and will
be further submitted to UPSC.
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Redressed of
anomalies in Seniority List of JWM as on 01-01-2009, 01-01-2012 &
01-01-2014 in light of the available rules in force in the year to year
transparently, Report of Task Force on seniority list of JWMs and publication
of amended seniority list as on 01/01/2009, 01/01/2012, 01/01/2014,
01/01/2015 & 01/01/2016.
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OFB/MoD: Seniority List of JWM(T/NT) as on 01-01-2014 was, published
on 28.11.2014. However, in view of submission of representations received
from different service association as well as incumbents, a committee has
been constituted by the competent authority to examine / consider the subject
representation and modality of the subject seniority list. Report of the
committee is expected to be received shortly. Action for preparation of updated
seniority will be initiated on receipt of the subject report.
NDGBGOA: Fast action for finalization of seniority is required for to
avoid further consequences to generate in DPCs for promotions.
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As the matter
pertains with OFB, so within one month OFB will liaise with associations and
finalize the seniority.
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7.
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Deferment of
promotion date/seniority of JWMs.
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The promotions were
made by diverting vacancies from one discipline to another on the peoples
(association/CDRA/JCM) demand and due to non availability of eligible
employees in the particular stream/discipline. But the same were reverted
after review demand in the same forum as per changed circumstances.
Now due to changed
scenario no any financial loss was there as only promotion date was deferred
without any reversion in pay. No any drastic change in seniority is there as
the seniority was maintained discipline/stream wise.
NDGBGOA: Our association strongly opposed the OFB views and asked
them if there will be no any loss or change then why deferment required? If
at that time eligible employees were not there in some discipline/stream then
afterward how the same employees becomes eligible to fill the same vacancies
after some years with notional seniority? Why such illegal promotions were
made at that time?
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Matter is judicial
one.
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8.
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DPC for Promotion
from JWM to AWM against the year 2015-16 & 2016-17
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OFB/MoD: The DPC proposal for promotion to AWM (JTS) from JWM for
the year 2015-16 & 2016-17 has been received from OFB on 18.11.2017.
After necessary scrutiny the proposal will be forwarded to UPSC for taking
necessary action.
MoD : In earlier
UPSC has returned two DPC proposals received from OFB since Dec.2016 for to amend AWM SRO discipline
wise. The present will be forwarded after vigilance section clearance from
DDP, MoD.
NDGBGOA: The criteria of discipline wise distribution of vacancies in
AWM to give justice to true industrial organization considering functional
aspects of organization facing the global computation is becomes our present need . The sanctioned strength of AWM should be
distributed in the ratio of the stream wise sanctioned strength of the feeder
cadre JWMs strength. So that no one can be disappointed considering their own
stream strength.
The other
association’s views are different.
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Action will be taken
within one month.
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Finalization of
transfer policy after discussion on suggestions of association.
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MOD/OFB: Committee has been constituted for the specific purpose
of revisiting the existing transfer policy of Gr. B Gazetted Officers. Report
of the subject committee has not been received as yet.
NDGBGOA: willingly transfers must implement on priority.
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To be finalise
within two months.
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10.
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Anomaly in promotion
from C/M (NT/OTS) &OS to JWM(NT/OTS: OS has been left out while
calculating overall strength of JWM(NT) curtailing the share of entitlement
of CM/OTS ) in promotion.
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MOD/OFB: A separate committee has been constituted for post wise
distribution of the combined strength sanctioned by MoD and while
redistribution of strength, every possible attempt would be made to restore
the inter grade ratio of Non-Tech supervisor staff in the organization.
NDGBGOA: The issue must be
killed in time frame manner prior to 7th CPC implementation and
further cadre restructuring with new proposed SRO.
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To be finalized by
OFB within One month.
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11.
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Forwarding of
Application for outside employment as per DOP&T guidelines for better
career prospects without hindrance within the specified time limit as
advertised by the employer.
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MOD/OFB: Per/NG issue note for outside employment, in case of
JWMs, following the revised guidelines circulated on 19.06.2013. For
Chargeman, the power for consideration /decision have been delegated to Sr.GM/GM/HOU.
JS/LS clearly stated that no one should be stopped from his career
progression and the applications for O/s employment should forward.
NDGBGOA: Not to hamper anybodies career progress.
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No one should be
stopped point was cleared.
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12.
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Grant of MACP to
SCT/SAT candidates.
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MOD/OFB: As per terms and conditions who availed age-relaxation
were to be treated as having got promoted to the same post (i.e. one MACP
benefit).This was clarified by OFB circular in the year 2002 itself.
NDGBGOA: As such who have not availed any age relaxation at the time
of SCT/SAT departmental candidates all should Grant MACP as per NDGBGOA
representation approved by OFB & PC of A (Fys.) for AFK SCT/SAT departmental candidates cases.
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Examine in One Month
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Grant of three
increments against acquired higher qualification.
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MOD/OFB: OFB stated that there was no existing and sanctioned
scheme in force in the MoD after the scheme of 03 advanced increments ceased
to exist w.e.f. 01.12.1973 and replaced with scheme of granting lump-sum
amount.
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The entitled cases
will be cleared within one month.
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Timely action to
fill up promotion and DR quota in all the three Cadres Chargeman, JWM, AWM
and stoppage of deployment of JWMs in shift and plant operation.
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MOD/OFB: For the post of chargeman, DR vacancies for the year of
2011-12 & 2012-13 has already been filled up. Process to induct chargeman
through DR quota for the vacancy year 2013-14 TO 2015-16 is about to complete
and notification for recruitment will be issued subsequently. For the post of
JWM, advertisement for filling up of vacancies for the year of 2014-15 was
notified through UPSC. Observing necessary formalities. Process has been
initiated to fill up vacancies of JWM in DR quota for the vacancy year of 2015-16.
NDGBGOA: Regarding deployment of JWMs in shift and plant operations
the view of OFB regarding functional requirement was not agreed as the same
was denied by OFB in Honorable CAT Chennai.
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MoD & OFB agreed
to may be considered.
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Necessary action by
OFB for publication of Names of JWMs in Gazette of India as “Gazetted
Officers”.
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MOD/OFB: Neither the process nor the feasibility is known for the
said proposal. Evidence may be submitted for examination whether any of the
other departments are doing it and modalities thereof.
NDGBGOA: Associations stand is very hard on gazette notification.
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As such the post of
JWM is Gazette Post and as per Manual of office procedure the appointment and
promotion of a Gazetted Officer to be published in the Gazette of India in
para 1 section 2 of the Gazette of India.
OFB will write to
GOVT. PRESS of INDIA for gazette notification.
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Review of list of
hard stations.
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MOD/OFB: Committee has been constituted for the specific purpose
of revisiting the existing transfer policy of Gr.B Gazetted Officers. List of
hard stations will also be reviewed along with. Report of the subject
committee has not been received as yet.
Jt.Sec./LS stated that hard stations list was reviewed for all Govt.
Organizations including DGQA & Audit so the same will be considered for
all.
NDGBGOA: Association insists for not to remove any existing hard
station.
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Provision of
Ordnance quota in Railway reservations.
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MOD/OFB: The initiatives have already been taken with Railway
Board and MoD. Latest communication regarding this has been made with MoD
vide OFB I.D. No. 814/Agenda/OM/A/A, dated 11.02.2016.
No more action has
been directed.
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Again letter
correspondence will be made with Rail-Authorities for reservation quota.
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Risk Allowance to
Gr. A and B officers for identified operations in OFs.
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MOD/OFB: Necessary action will be taken after implementation of 7th
CPC by Govt. of India in the matter of allowances, including Risk Allowance.
NDGBGOA: allowances are related to the nature of work and not related
to the post so all liable allowances should be given to JWMs
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Considered after 7th
CPC allowances committee report.
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19.
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Implementation of
Incentive scheme as per recommendation of Shri AK Singh Committee.
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MOD/OFB: Regarding Incentive scheme it is stated that a high
Power committee headed by Shri. S.C. Bajpai, Addi. DGOF/AV HQrs. Has been
constituted. The said committee has submitted its phase –I Report. The phase
–II report is yet to be submitted.
NDGBGOA: Earlier action for submission of report to be taken by
MoD/OFB.
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In phase – I of
report submitted by committee considered only examiners from IES cadre. In
phase –II of report to be submitted by committee our cadres part will be
considered.
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NOTE: Though, MOD will issue
official minutes, this brief notes are made on the basis of recall of the
discussions held in the meeting and being circulated to our members of NDGBGOA
for instant information about the outcome of the meeting.
OTHER POINTS DISCUSSED IN THE
MEETING
(1). The issue raised by other association
for non-implementation of additional one
increment related order of MOF(Exp) & OFB by OF Chanda due to which payment
of arrears are hold up and effected individuals are in loss.
Our
association reminded OFB officials that NDGBGOA is having court order for
implementation of above MOF(Exp) order within two months regarding one
promotional not additional increment to those who have got promotion from
C/H-II to C/H-I & AF to JWM in the period 01.01.2006 to 29.08.2008 i.e.
date of notification of 6th CPC
Decision: DDG/IR directed Dir/NG to note and to issue necessary orders
to all factories.
(2). JS/LS Emphasized that DDP & OFB
may ensure timely actions as per the decisions taken
(3). On request of NDGBGOA, JS/LS directed US/G to schedule a meeting after
02 months to review the progress on the decisions taken in this meeting.
The warm meeting was concluded
by vote of thanks to all officials by General Secretary NDGBGOA.
-Sd-
(Jaigopal Singh)
General Secretary
